That chabad has made zero impact on lowering rates of intermarriage.
And that the rebbe was a hypocrite for not going on shluchis himself.
And that the shluchim who see girls in bikinis are being affected in ways they don’t understand (I half agree. But the rebbe certainly knew everything his critics knew)
"(I half agree. But the rebbe certainly knew everything his critics knew)". I can't speak for the SA, but this statement is rejected in principle. He had his vision and he had his blind spots, as any other man.
Sure, but the shluchim going OTD isn’t one of them. Perhaps he was too optimistic regarding the people shluchim talk to, but the shluchim themselves are an obvious success, considering everything. I also don’t think the rebbe wanted his chasidim barefoot and pregnant, but even if he did, that too was a winning strategy, seeing as the fertility rate of the rest of the usa is in free fall.
Related: I agree with the yeshiva movement/system being a near failure, but their goal was to keep the mass “frum”. Can we really say they didn’t succeed in at least that?
That chabad has made zero impact on lowering rates of intermarriage.
And that the rebbe was a hypocrite for not going on shluchis himself.
And that the shluchim who see girls in bikinis are being affected in ways they don’t understand (I half agree. But the rebbe certainly knew everything his critics knew)
"(I half agree. But the rebbe certainly knew everything his critics knew)". I can't speak for the SA, but this statement is rejected in principle. He had his vision and he had his blind spots, as any other man.
Sure, but the shluchim going OTD isn’t one of them. Perhaps he was too optimistic regarding the people shluchim talk to, but the shluchim themselves are an obvious success, considering everything. I also don’t think the rebbe wanted his chasidim barefoot and pregnant, but even if he did, that too was a winning strategy, seeing as the fertility rate of the rest of the usa is in free fall.
Related: I agree with the yeshiva movement/system being a near failure, but their goal was to keep the mass “frum”. Can we really say they didn’t succeed in at least that?
I think SA, like any other man, has specific examples in mind that he encountered. This might not be the rule, but true in his experience.
Fair enough
Interesting. Very much disagree on chabadniks and intermarriage…
It’s been a long time. What, specifically, please remind me?