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Baruch Hasofer's avatar

We live in a Platonic world, where physical change is driven by change in the realms of the ideal.

Heroic atom pusher Musk started off by the supreme luftgescheft of Paypal, is pushing those atoms to go to Mars-what is that if not a luftgescheft? Along the way, he wishes to develop Neuralink, a more direct way to impact material reality with your thoughts.

As for shluchim-no schluchim, no baalei teshuva. No baalei teshuva, no Jewish babies. No Jewish babies, no heroic material achievements. The breakdown of society, the family, the self-Nietzche's Last Men-has spiritual roots and spiritual remedies, but these remedies must have a strong material component. No flour, no Torah-no Torah, no flour.

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צמח's avatar

It’s a deeply contradictory issue that I am struggling with.

On your 2nd paragraph, your mileage may vary.

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Baruch Hasofer's avatar

Life is dialectical, it runs on contradictions.

Everyone's mileage varies. I know many baalei teshuva. Many are screwed up, but none who weren't screwed up to begin with. Now they're screwed up in a different way. I don't know any who have fewer Jewish kids than they would have had they stayed tinokot shenishbu.

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צמח's avatar

Hmm, I can think of a few exceptions...

It is not complicated, what a person does for a living? Start asking, and the divide is profound.

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Aaron Esq's avatar

גוט געזאגט; Agree. This inspired by Thiel's "bits vs. atoms"? Even scholarly authorship is frowned upon now in Chabad. Very sad state of affairs. A rapid brain-drain from the internal "group-meaning" council; i.e. from an era David Riesman called "other-directed" socialization.

Moot though. Age of e-life has made us individualistic and inner-directed (and to your point, demand for blue collar work is skyrocketing). So the pendulum has swung. AI will reveal the cloud-people who are ignorant. Crisis ensues. "If I am not for myself, who will be?" Hillel.

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Aaron Esq's avatar

This is my whining that no one liked my comment, no one responded, that no one wants me. There was no reaction at all; So I will cease all my contributions to society, from henceforth.

lmfao :)

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